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	<title>Comments on: Having kids at 14????</title>
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		<title>By: bil</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15363</link>
		<dc:creator>bil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose, in a way she&#039;s right about the male world bit.

I read once there is a link between preceived safety in a country and the average age of marriage and pregnancy. The safer a country the later people marry and have kids, the less safe a country the earlier. For example, in a time of war people marry earlier. That&#039;s her male timetable link.

There is also a similar correlation with female education. The better educated the female population the later they marry and have sprogs.

These both explain why the UK has such an abysmal teenage pregnancy rate: violent, unsafe society and a dumbed down education system.

Brown&#039;s Britain

I was 20 when I married, my wife 17. Had our first sprog 3 years later, she&#039;s now left home (uni) and I&#039;m still only in my early 40&#039;s. And no worries about becoming a grandfather because she feels safe and is well educated. It&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose, in a way she&#8217;s right about the male world bit.</p>
<p>I read once there is a link between preceived safety in a country and the average age of marriage and pregnancy. The safer a country the later people marry and have kids, the less safe a country the earlier. For example, in a time of war people marry earlier. That&#8217;s her male timetable link.</p>
<p>There is also a similar correlation with female education. The better educated the female population the later they marry and have sprogs.</p>
<p>These both explain why the UK has such an abysmal teenage pregnancy rate: violent, unsafe society and a dumbed down education system.</p>
<p>Brown&#8217;s Britain</p>
<p>I was 20 when I married, my wife 17. Had our first sprog 3 years later, she&#8217;s now left home (uni) and I&#8217;m still only in my early 40&#8242;s. And no worries about becoming a grandfather because she feels safe and is well educated. It&#8217;s great.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabot</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15305</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Ms. Mantel actually get around to suggesting how these 14 year old girls would fund this life style. Or how useful it would be to society?

I could have run a household containing children when I was 14.  What am I talking about, I did.  But it wasn&#039;t much fun, which is why I hotfooted out of the door as soon as I was  legally allowed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Ms. Mantel actually get around to suggesting how these 14 year old girls would fund this life style. Or how useful it would be to society?</p>
<p>I could have run a household containing children when I was 14.  What am I talking about, I did.  But it wasn&#8217;t much fun, which is why I hotfooted out of the door as soon as I was  legally allowed to.</p>
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		<title>By: bristolmoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>bristolmoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;English Viking March 4, 2010 at 19:57 
@Bristolmoose
The 14 year old of your acquaintance will doubtless </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;English Viking March 4, 2010 at 19:57<br />
@Bristolmoose<br />
The 14 year old of your acquaintance will doubtless</p>
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		<title>By: English Viking</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15297</link>
		<dc:creator>English Viking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Thaddeus

Very droll.</description>
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<p>Very droll.</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus J. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaddeus J. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do know that&#039;s illegal, don&#039;t you, binlid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do know that&#8217;s illegal, don&#8217;t you, binlid?</p>
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		<title>By: binlid</title>
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		<dc:creator>binlid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vast majority of 14 year old girls that I have come acriss cannot look after themselves, never mind a baby.  Just ask their mothers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vast majority of 14 year old girls that I have come acriss cannot look after themselves, never mind a baby.  Just ask their mothers.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15290</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The State wants us tied to it&#039;s apron strings. 

Girls having children at 14 is not really a problem. The State making everyone else pay for it is. Sharing the responsibility across everyone else means that the teenage mothers do not see it as a mistake until it has already happened.

It doesn&#039;t help that to some people the value of a child has been diminished by the State&#039;s actions.  They are a means to a council flat. They are a source of income. They are a fashion accessory. A pet. A punchbag. A plaything.

The Fabian mentality of everything being &#039;right&#039; because they say so has put a lot of children into misery and because they are so wedded to procedures and processes they have no intention or ability to end this. Worse, those lives blighted by the welfare culture serve as ever greater justification for the State trying to muscle into every avenue of our lives.

Who would have paid Hilarity Mantel&#039;s bills when she was 14? It was her choice to be &#039;educated well into her twenties&#039; at a time when a lot of people weren&#039;t, and there was nothing to stop her seeking to adopt children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The State wants us tied to it&#8217;s apron strings. </p>
<p>Girls having children at 14 is not really a problem. The State making everyone else pay for it is. Sharing the responsibility across everyone else means that the teenage mothers do not see it as a mistake until it has already happened.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t help that to some people the value of a child has been diminished by the State&#8217;s actions.  They are a means to a council flat. They are a source of income. They are a fashion accessory. A pet. A punchbag. A plaything.</p>
<p>The Fabian mentality of everything being &#8216;right&#8217; because they say so has put a lot of children into misery and because they are so wedded to procedures and processes they have no intention or ability to end this. Worse, those lives blighted by the welfare culture serve as ever greater justification for the State trying to muscle into every avenue of our lives.</p>
<p>Who would have paid Hilarity Mantel&#8217;s bills when she was 14? It was her choice to be &#8216;educated well into her twenties&#8217; at a time when a lot of people weren&#8217;t, and there was nothing to stop her seeking to adopt children.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;What do I know?
Nothing, if you ask my 13-year old daughter.&#039;

Take heart, you will be amazed how much you will have learned by the time she is in her mid twenties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;What do I know?<br />
Nothing, if you ask my 13-year old daughter.&#8217;</p>
<p>Take heart, you will be amazed how much you will have learned by the time she is in her mid twenties.</p>
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		<title>By: Delphius1</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15287</link>
		<dc:creator>Delphius1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the Rose-Tinted musings of someone who hasn&#039;t had children, hasn&#039;t had to give anything up to look after them, hasn&#039;t had the sleep deprivation of the first few months.....

I wasn&#039;t that well equipped emotionally to deal with kids in my late 20s, let alone my teens. I did better than most at coping, even when dealing with a disabled child, but parenthood is never, ever easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the Rose-Tinted musings of someone who hasn&#8217;t had children, hasn&#8217;t had to give anything up to look after them, hasn&#8217;t had the sleep deprivation of the first few months&#8230;..</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t that well equipped emotionally to deal with kids in my late 20s, let alone my teens. I did better than most at coping, even when dealing with a disabled child, but parenthood is never, ever easy.</p>
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		<title>By: English Viking</title>
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		<dc:creator>English Viking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bristolmoose

The 14 year old of your acquaintance will doubtless &#039;graduate&#039; school with fistfuls of A* GCSE&#039;s and a chip on both shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bristolmoose</p>
<p>The 14 year old of your acquaintance will doubtless &#8216;graduate&#8217; school with fistfuls of A* GCSE&#8217;s and a chip on both shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pickworth</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15285</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pickworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this where we&#039;ve got it all so wrong?

Its surely proper that we support infants totally, and then slowly removing that support as the child grows while hopefully becoming more independent. I think anyone would recognise this statement as parenting?

And yet, the State flips this around almost. Supplying ever greater intervention, benefits and &#039;help&#039; as the child matures. Is it any surprise therefore that many grow-up to believe that a council house, kid and young persons pension (benefits) are the pinnacles of achievement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this where we&#8217;ve got it all so wrong?</p>
<p>Its surely proper that we support infants totally, and then slowly removing that support as the child grows while hopefully becoming more independent. I think anyone would recognise this statement as parenting?</p>
<p>And yet, the State flips this around almost. Supplying ever greater intervention, benefits and &#8216;help&#8217; as the child matures. Is it any surprise therefore that many grow-up to believe that a council house, kid and young persons pension (benefits) are the pinnacles of achievement?</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However it wasn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However it wasn</p>
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		<title>By: bristolmoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>bristolmoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However it wasn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However it wasn</p>
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		<title>By: SadButMadLad</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/uncategorized/kids-at-14/#comment-15276</link>
		<dc:creator>SadButMadLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14-16 year old girls now a days aren&#039;t in any fit state to look after children. However it wasn&#039;t uncommon for girls as young as 14 to be married and having kids not more than 100 years ago. Society always changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14-16 year old girls now a days aren&#8217;t in any fit state to look after children. However it wasn&#8217;t uncommon for girls as young as 14 to be married and having kids not more than 100 years ago. Society always changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Vimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which reminds me of the old Weegie joke:

What do you call a 30 year-old woman in a shellsuit?

Granny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which reminds me of the old Weegie joke:</p>
<p>What do you call a 30 year-old woman in a shellsuit?</p>
<p>Granny.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind them breeding at 14,  so long as they, the father &amp; their parents pay for them.

And house them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind them breeding at 14,  so long as they, the father &amp; their parents pay for them.</p>
<p>And house them.</p>
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