Rudi Dutschke coined the phrase ‘Der lange Marsch durch die Institutionen’ – ‘The Long Walk through the Institutions’ to describe his desired outcome of governmental institutions being infiltrated by those who shared his belief in Marxism and would be in a position to influence future generations; eventually you would end up with a society where all ‘thought’ was uniformly Marxist.
Joyce Thacker is surely the virtual love child of this ideology. There has been universal condemnation of her department’s decision to remove three young children from a loving foster home on the grounds that their parent’s membership of UKIP – ‘a racist’ organisation according to Joyce – was incompatible with their cultural needs as ‘EU migrants’. It is inconceivable that these children might have been removed from their foster home on the grounds of their foster parent’s membership of the Labour Party – a Labour party which enthusiastically supported the carpet bombing of large areas of Europe. I’m tempted to ask why these children are in need of a foster home – did someone bomb their parents off the face of this earth? Are we to believe that the children’s cultural needs are better catered for in a household whose adults are in favour of wiping their fellow Europeans off the face of the earth, than merely limiting their access to UK taxpayers funds?
‘Tis a curious world to be sure, that we geriatrics inhabit, as we watch the Long March of Marxism through our present environment. Instead of the seaside cottage and roses round the door that our parents worked towards, we await the ‘Liverpool Pathway’. Not for us the rewards of pension funds that soared in value; we are a ‘burden on the young’. We watch in amazement as those who spoke “inappropriately” to an under age girl 40 years ago are pilloried in the media as paedophiles, while those who buggered an under age boy have been thoughtfully pardoned in advance of exposure by a retrospective change in the law. We hear that under age girls who have had sex with Muslim men are making ‘lifestyle choices’, whilst those under age girls who had sex with white celebrities are ‘victims of an appalling attack’.
We listen to a government sanctioning and promoting contraception and abortions to 12 year old girls, whilst condemning the sale of ‘inappropriately revealing’ clothing to those same 12 year olds. We see children who can confidently tell you the date that Buddhism started, or the finer tenets of the Koran but are struck dumb when asked why we celebrate Christmas Day. We hear nothing of the children of Muslim families where male members have been convicted of paedophile attacks, yet our newspapers are full of information as to how a man who failed to ‘grab the tits’ of an under age girl 40 years ago is prevented from having contact with his own children until the long arm of the law finally unwinds.
We read of think tanks set up by Gordon Brown to instill ‘ethics into banking’ – under investigation after substantial sums went ethically missing – and Lord Mandelson appointed head of ‘ethical banking’ at Lazards. Of MPs refusing to give us details of the way in which they have managed to circumnavigate the controls they grudgingly agreed to install after their financial chicanery was revealed. Of celebrities who insist that the press should only be allowed to publish that which their press agent has released. And MPs who believe that they should control what the press is allowed to print.
In fact the only consistently sensible thing I have heard in the past few days came from Jamie Blandford. Yes, that Jamie Blandford, the drug addled, inbred son of aristocracy.
“This country is bent, that’s what the ordinary people think. [...] I’m not the only one that’s politically p—– off.”.
There is something wonderfully surreal realising that the only person with the courage to speak the truth in public is the formerly disgraced drug addict son of aristocracy, whilst standing waiting for ‘our glorious leader’, the Prime Minister, to arrive and formally open – his new toilet block!
Meanwhile the queue outside UKIPs office in Rotherham continues to grow, 50 new members signed up on the first day I hear. Seems the good citizens of Rotherham prefer a little straight talking to Thackerism™.
Now if UKIP signed up Jamie Blandford as parliamentary candidate for Whitney, I reckon they could be onto a sure fire winner….I’ll go and campaign for him.
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I said much the same here: http://brackenworld.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/on-rotherham-councils-decision-to.html
“‘Der lange Marsch durch die Institutionen’”
Gramsci, originally, I gather, says this pedant. Mr. Miliband D is a big fan of the boy Gramsci.
I believe, but am quite happy to be corrected on this, that Gramsci coined the ‘long march’, and Rudi boy extended it into his idea of infiltrating institutions….
Yep. You beat me to it.
The rest of the righteous rant I agree with 100%.
How did they become aware that the foster parents were members of UKIP?
Good question, as yet unanswered!
Apparently via an anonymous tip off. Being grassed up by the neighbours or it being used as a catch-all excuse…sinister either way.
Just like Winston Smith’s neighbour’s offspring reporting their parents for thoughtcrime…
Orwell was remarkably prescient.
“…via an anonymous tip off.”
I’m guessing that there has, as yet, been no independent investigation so the suggestion of the “anonymous tip off” would have had to come from the council?
As Rotherham council seems sinisterly manipulative I’m not inclined to take their words at face value.
Agreed wholeheartedly!
Gosh, just come across you. Where have you been all my life? Keep up the good work.
Welcomed, Jonathan Elms. You don’t know what you have been missing. Fortunately, most of it is frightfully politically incorrect.
Welcome to the Snug.
Did you see the sign on the wall that newcomers are expected to buy a round for all the regulars ? In your own time…..
Was that Whitney – on – Wye or the curiously named Whitney Bottom in Somerset ?
Those of us willing to help need to know .
Whitney on Wye.
Though Whitney Bottom would have been a suitably salubrious constituency for a Prime Minister who spends his time opening toilets….
Or for a fan of the Houston girl ? .
But , since your target is ‘ Dilatory Dave ‘ you’d be better off campaigning in Witney , Oxfordshire .
Is it a marginal seat?
Should it be left up or down, these are the policies the electorate want.
Give up the punning Saul, you’re a busted flush.
(Absolutely not meant, but I couldn’t think how else to make it work!)
I love the puns, Saul and think you should carry on (at your convenience, of course).
Why thank you Glo, in lieu of any objections, I shall carry on then.
|@ Are we to believe that the children’s cultural needs are better catered for in a household whose adults are in favour of wiping their fellow Europeans off the face of the earth @
Given that Tories are allegedly all paedophiles, who’s left?
@ Given that Tories are allegedly all paedophiles, who’s left? @
The Liberals……………
….. boom-boom
Labour, the Russian doll party.
Doll No 1.
The public face of a slightly left of centre social democratic party.(A grinning Tony Bliar).
Doll No 2.
The party that got into bed with believe it or not the very “capitalist forces of evil” socialists so deride.(Mandelson, Oligarcs, Bankers).
Doll No 3.
The party that created common purpose place “persons” to infiltrate the bodies and media sections of government.(to enact the destabilisation of our way of life).
Doll No 4.
The useful idiots who riot.(Created by welfare dependency or distorted views formed by poor education, envy, pushed by agent provocateurs).
Doll No 5.
The Frankfurt school way of thinking, we all know about that do we not?
Doll No 6.
The pseudo intellectualism infecting the sciences and arts, driving very distorted views of social interaction amongst the population as a whole, I believe this to be the root of the problem.
Doll No 7
The ConLibDem Pact
I agree.
No 8 anyone?
Doll #6 is my personal bete noir – post normal science and post normal philosophy
http://buythetruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/climate-change-and-the-death-of-science/
Here is an e-Petition calling for an inquiry into Common Purpose: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/42381
Great post Anna !!!!!!!
Trouble is the UKIP mushrooms just don’t check who they are voting for…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hauR-4sNUMc
“There has been universal condemnation of her department’s decision to remove three young children from a loving foster home on the grounds that their parent’s membership of UKIP”
If only that were true.
“formerly disgraced drug addict son of aristocracy, whilst standing waiting for ‘our glorious leader’, the Prime Minister, to arrive and formally open – his new toilet block!”
Maybe this gentleman realised that it is the duty of the prime minster of this country to ‘flush out’ all the crap that had been building up for some
pressed strange buttons; should read:
Maybe this gentleman realised that it is the duty of the prime minster of this country to ‘flush out’ all the crap that had been building up for some time.
Ahem, no ‘h’ Anna – Witney please.
Other than that – nice piece!
Following my previous comment I realize that I have confused my Witney/Whitney – there was I thinking you had found a way we could get rid of our present MP…..
If we really have now reached the point where all thought is purely Marxist then there wouldn’t be any outrage. This story was even on the ultra-Marxist-infiltrated BBC’s news web site.
Or are the media reports a clever double-think strategy to hoodwink the naive into thinking that we have a relatively plural system?
Thats because all the beeboids heard was “Thacker, Thacker, Thacker, out out out” and were instantly transported to the halcyon days of the 80′s and could relive their hate of all things “thacker….”
Till someone pointed out its wasn’t a nuanced mis-pronunciation by a group of Eaton edukated leftards, but was actually one of their own about to be defrocked… and by then it was to late to do the usual “nothing to see here” buried on the pack pages of the news portal, or given a brief mention on the 4am slot on news24.
Once this, and the fact that CP were again involved (Amazing how such a tin foil hatters dream could actually be true) they then decided to link UKIP with the BNP so as to force a denial by Farrage, but by inference “he would say that wouldn’t he?”
And even the, usually quite funny… but not so much the past few weeks as its about Dirty Uncle Beeb, HIGNFY was on full DM scourge (again) with, the again usually quite funny and scathing, Hislop, giving jolly jape against the existence of CP as being nothing more than a “tin hatters” article by the afore mentioned DM; which is quite funny because they mention it so much it must actually help towards increasing its circulation, LoL.
@ they then decided to link UKIP with the BNP @
Radio Five did a “discussion” on this matter last evening and they were a little “outraged” that membership of a legal political party should be deemed to turn people into improper parents, but as the discussion proceeded and the UKIP man was clearly in the moral ascendancy, the comparison was then lobbed in that if they had been BNP voters, then…. maybe…….. and the UKIP man pretty much did get sucked in.
What might be ironic is that if these kiddies come from Eastern Europe, then there’s a distinct possibility that their actual parents were possibly a lot more “to the right” than the UKIP fosterers from the UK could ever dream of……
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/poor-and-prejudiced-eastern-europe-swings-right-a-809827.html
“We see children who can confidently tell you the date that Buddhism started, or the finer tenets of the Koran but are struck dumb when asked why we celebrate Christmas Day.”
Not to mention the Lord’s Prayer. Oh boy, I can recognise that part, Anna.
Great article, bang on the money.
This week’s by-election in Rotherham will be even more fascinating now. It is reasonable to assume that the small clan of Tory voters there will see many defections to UKIP, along with many honest Labour voters in a kicking-response to their previous criminal MP, MacShane. Labour may have believed its usual auto-pilot voters there would still perform, but Respect will now hoover up many of the ethnic postal-voters (15%) from Labour. Lib-Dem votes are always irrelevant, the few in the area will be smeared across the piece but their deposit is at severe risk, with consequent embarrassment.
The only potential winner out of this is UKIP – if all those conditions above apply and on a low November turnout, it is not impossible for Farage’s candidate to claim the seat, which would really set the cat amongst the pigoens. Both ‘Cast-Iron’ Dave and Ed Millipede would publicly blame it solely on the topical child-stealing issue in an attempt to avoid acknowledging the growing anti-EU sentiment but, deep down, they’ll all be crapping themselves, especially Dave, for the 2014 Euro Elections, then the 2015 general election. Bring it on.
(If any fellow-imbibers in the Raccoon Snug have the opportunity to vote in the Rotherham ballot, please use it to do all you can to embarrass the major parties – they need it up ‘em.)
Can we do postal voting please? No drinks til you’ve signed your voting slip sort of thing?
I live ‘next door’ to Rotherham and I can confidently predict (unfortuately) that Labour will win comfortably. A rancid, festering, putrid, paedophillic pile of sh@t (wow!) with a red rosette stuck in it would still win
In normal times you would surely be right, but little about this time is normal – the ignominious exit of MacShame, the creative presence of Respect, the high-profile child-stealing case, the unpopularity of the Coalition (especially the Lib-Dems), the unfolding EU disaster, the late November timing. These all contribute some influence on ‘normal’ voting patterns, even in Red Flag Rotherham.
You may well be proved right by Friday, but the post-match analysis of the result, however the win goes, will be fascinating.
And misguided though they may often be, the good folk of Rotherham deserve not to have yet another “rancid, festering, putrid, paedophillic (?) pile of sh@t with a red rosette stuck in it” as their MP.
“Labour party members walked out of a meeting to decide who should stand in the by-election……………………… About 80 of the 114 party members present left in protest. They were angry a shortlist drawn up by Labour’s national executive did not include Rotherham-born Mahroof Hussain MBE, a member of the local council.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-20322069
http://www.mahroofhussain.org/
So much for One Nation Labour………
Mudplugger, I included the word ‘paedophillic’ as it’s currently in vogue!? (despite it being incongruous). I’m going for the reverse midas touch. If I state the bleedin obvious, then just maybe a shock result may happen!!! As regards “the good folk of Rotherham” – they’ll suffer the same fate as the ‘good folk of Sheffield’ always do – get trampled underfoot by the collective of the Labour Borg
Yet another insightful posting. Thanks Anna.
Excellent. Keep it up.
Great post, again.
Although Cynical Observer has probably hit the nail on the head re which the winning party is likely to be, can I safely predict turnout at the by-election this week will be above the norm?
btw, were the children of Polish ethnicity?
A curious thing, but the British Association of Social Workers came out with a response to the Rotherham issue on its website- sort of concerned about the issue as given by Thacker response. Today they removed their response !!! Are they worried about having to ‘eat their hats’ and give a bad reputation to social work? Seems they are well able to represent the ‘social circus’ mob, as, like the MSM, they act in haste without enough fact… so it goes on..
@Span Ows. Given the migrant make-up of the area, my money would be on Slovaks. Probably of the ‘Roma’ variety.
Dear Anna
Why, oh why, do I (repeatedly) start off reading what you write and hating it line by line, and at the end find I agree with what you say?
Mike
Ultimately, I don’t think the ‘Long Walk through the Institutions’ will work. Not in Britain, anyway. They do become slowly engrained, and equally slowly noticed; first by those directly affected, then by such as the blogosphere, and ultimately by the general population. At first, it seems like a few loonies, and is generally shrugged off – management will stamp it out. Later, it begins to dawn that management IS the problem. Then, they get cocky and do something so daft that they shoot themselves in the foot – the Thacker/UKIP episode being a case in point. That won’t be enough to sort the problem on it’s own (though it has given Michael Gove a good excuse to look at the whole business of fostering. However, it does reinforce the view that social workers are a bunch of idealogical, blinkered lefties, and next time they transgress in some way, it will be far harder to bamboozle an already suspicious general public.
I’m also not convinced that such methods really work. Take the EU as an example – a classic Left-leaning (bordering on Marxist) set-up if ever there was one. The BBC are for it. Most of the mainstream press – with one or two exceptions – are for it. The main political parties are broadly for it. Yet despite all this, the pesky public won’t be persuaded; indeed, they’re getting somewhat restive about the whole thing. Another example is education; a deeply entrenched lefty education establishment has killed itself by (basically) making a real old mess of educating people. Now, Michael Gove (I’m not in his pay, honest) is sweeping the whole lot away, and there’s not a damn thing the lefties can do about it, because what is replacing their failed micro-controlling is so patently obviously more fit for purpose.
It’ll be an ongoing battle for some time yet, but ultimately it’ll fail because we are a cussed and bloody-minded people who like the freedom to do our own thing, and don’t take kindly to little Hitlers.
Thacker take note. Then kindly shove off .
I hope you are right but the country has changed so much I wonder. I never thought England would accept the very unfair devolution settlement but they did, I never thought they would accept the total outlawing of smoking in public places but they did and so many more infringements on our freedom, choice and Government interfering with private businesses. I have been waiting ‘for the poeple of England to speak’ and I think it looks like a long wait. No longer worried for myself but I do wonder what kind of country my grandchildren will live in.
I’m not sure we know who ‘the people of England’ are any more, the country has become so unrecognisable in many places and in so many ways. Once corruption in town halls and public institutions would have not even been on the radar, now it is an everyday occurance, covered up by lies and deceit by not a minority. There are good people, but they get swallowed up or demoralised. I do not think anyone of us ‘oldies’ 50 years ago would have imagined the country would become what it is today. How many would have had children if we had had a crystal ball I wonder?
Edna- my observation of local council activities is one of an abuse of the rules in a manner that is unlawful but not illegal; to achieve ‘we know best’ aims rather than personal gain. In partnership with and housetrained by big business and it’s resources, S106 lawful bribery, PR management, independent(?) technical assessments paid for by the developer, what hope is there?
Secrecy, the introduction of the Cabinet system into local government, obscure councilspeak, sham cosultations and local apathy allow this to happen.
I have taken on and had a win of sorts against my local planners, but it is difficult and slow. The reality is that even if a council decision is reached improperly, it still stands.
It is is not just that you had children all those years ago, but it is what lies in wait for their children. Each generation has its problems but there has been an almost lemming-like rush to the cliff edge of self-destruction over the past thirty years, even if those pushing from the back hope they reach the cliff-edge last and there’s a soft landing awaiting them.
It may well be that we are in some peculiar end-times where the barbarians are now firmly inside the gates and what passed for reasonable and proper behaviour once has been severely eroded. Yet, for all the pronouncements of making a new society we seem to be overseeing a form of an old and decayed society where fences are trampled down and barriers willingly removed to facilitate a new ‘dark age.’
The Decline and Fall of The British Empire. But there is still a way to go, I fear, although not all that much from what I am hearing.
I’m not normally into conspiracies.
I’ve always thought that we have enough capacity for badness and foolishness, self included, without networking.
But I’m well aware of how aggressive some management training courses can be, I’ve seen a man cry, can’t forget it.
So is there anything in the CP network thing that can be supported with first hand knowledge, or acceptable evidence?
Someone that’s done one of the the courses or has co-workers that have?
Just asking.
What price Ms. Thacker: ‘…Rotherham’s Sour Faced Stasi Leader’ is out of a job by this time next week?
Shocking…
But that didn’t do Sharon Shoesmith any financial harm, did it ?
The removal of fostered children from the foster parents on the grounds that they (the foster parents) are members of a perfecly lawful political party is one of the most sinister developments in recent times. As for the institutions that goven our country – and in that respect I refer to government big and small, the banks, the judiciary and big business? It is becoming increasingly clear that we have a situation in which the values of the majority are despised by the few who manage to appoint themselves to power. Think, for example of Dave CaMoron’s “Hug a hoody” speech. A perfect perspective from the back of your hunter in Oxfordshire or safety of your limo; not so appropriate if, like one of our occassional contributors, you have just been smashed in the face by some youn thug in search of someone else’s cash.
It is not even a cultural disconnect. It is what call the inversion of values.
Oh Woe, Britain! We have been here before in the 6th Century, and the abyss yawns again!
(*Dramatic pose*)
@ The removal of fostered children from the foster parents on the grounds that they (the foster parents) are members of a perfectly lawful political party is one of the most sinister developments in recent times. @
It’s nothing brand new though, just an extension of these authorities having the ability to impose their corporate beliefs upon society at large, backed up by Law:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-12598896
And it’s probably less sinister than all those children in Scotland, in the Nineties, who were taken off their own parents, by the Social Services intent on preventing “Satanic Abuse”.
So pleased you could weave Jamie Blandford into this tale. I was delighted to read recently he had been accepted back into the fold albeit with the tight controls of trustees.
I remember around 35 years ago when i was employed on a new magazine and I and the editor met up with the proposed new motoring correspondent : Blandford who only that week had been banned from driving for 12 months.
It’s never been better time to be old. I think.
I think you are right. I don’t mind being old. My generation survived a War during which we rarely got to eat too much. This means that a large number of us are not only incredibly healthy but also as tough as old boots. I did also get out of England some time ago, which leads me to suspect that I ain’t half daft either.
I am genuinely sad to see what is happening to the land of my birth, but the rot started a very long time ago. And it wasn’t Racism from Brits in general. Most of us were quite happy to see them. My Dad said that London Transport would never have survived without our black brethren, and my Dad was a bit of a working class bigot, so not among the most tolerant of people.
Nope, the rot started when some of our own kind began to demand more for immigrants than Brits would ever be given. And so racism and political correctness began, and ordinary people began to resent it. The old joke about being a one legged black lesbian, one parent family with six children, all by different fathers, was in fact, far too close to the truth. But people like me were afraid to say so because it was Racist, and a Crime.
Am I Racist? I never used to be, but now I don’t know any more.
Hello Anna (if you will permit me to use your first name without having corresponded before)
I chanced upon you blog whilst making some enquiries into the Jimmy Savile affair since it was of interest to me from various perspectives not least of all why he was such an influential figure. Pleased I found your blog because it contains lots of interesting articles but apart from that you have commendable literary skills worth reading not just for content alone
Not sure any comment I may pass is of great value but you might find it worthwhile within the context of the interests about which you write to look at the works of a Political Philosopher James Burnham and some of his followers. Wikipaedia is enough to give you his central thesis of the Managerial Society and if your interest is sparked by what you read a bit more easy research on the web will give you his broader thesis. I believe his thesis propounded 50 years ago is spot on in predicting and analysing present day England and the way its moved and moving although some of his specific predictions were rather adrift —George Orwell is thought to have drawn on his thesis and whilst it can’t be claimed we are in 1984 I don’t think it aberrant to claim we do live in a Society as predicted to some very large extent by Burnham and certainly I view the article above as being an example of the antics of the (middle) Managerial Society.
Thanks once again for your blog and I hope my suggestion proves of interest and if not sorry for troubling you.
Kind Regards
Yes Stephen. Thanks for the Burnham reference. I think we’ve all seen first hand the parasitic scourge of Managerialism. Highly prevalent in UK public institutions. Endemic in the corporate world. Just taken a big hit this side of the water as corporations shed purely administrative roles and restructure. Needs a good purge from time to time, or like any parasite left unchecked, it can and will kill the host organism.
I think the rot set in during the early 90′s with the corporate mania for ‘compliance’ and the rise of HR.
Posted at ‘Racoon Arms’.
Having identified, indeed TM’d, ‘Thackerism’ in the loony-left long-march thru Brit institutions via the Liverpool Pathway to supposed Marxism.
Ms Racoon should not overlook the obvious overarching raving-Right/Wrong-uns ThatcheRight/wrong(‘TM’) Fraud Market motorway via Murdoch to today’s UK Tabloid Terrorism!
Here we go again -
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Sir Cyril Smith was a sex abuser of boys in the late 1960s, police have accepted.
The news comes as the Crown Prosecution Service admitted he should have been charged with the crimes more than 40 years ago.
In a statement, Greater Manchester Police said the boys “were victims of physical and sexual abuse” by the late Rochdale MP.
Sir Cyril was never charged despite investigations in 1970, 1998, and 1999.
A file compiled by Lancashire Constabulary in 1970, contained allegations made by eight men that they had been subjected to indecent assaults by Sir Cyril, when they were teenagers.
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DPP Norman Skelhorn wrote to the Chief Constable of Lancashire on 19 March 1970, stating: “I do not consider that if proceedings for indecent assault were to be taken against Smith, there would be a reasonable prospect of conviction.”\\
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-20516533
Quite. The media and the witch hunters are in their element again. I wonder how many will appreciate that the ‘now’ situation means the completely unfair process in which the courts can bring a guilt verdict purely on the number of accusers no matter how flakey. And thumbs down to GMP for following in the irresponsible footsteps of the Met and pronouncing guilt even without the trial.
The CPS statement:
http://blog.cps.gov.uk/2012/11/cps-statement-in-relation-to-cyril-smith.html
“The legal barrier to prosecution in 1998 has since been relaxed and the approach demonstrated in 1970 has now long been one rejected by the entire criminal justice system which can be seen through not only a change in attitude, but a change in the law on corroboration in the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. “
a Labour party which enthusiastically supported the carpet bombing of large areas of Europe.
I’m not at all sure that is right, Anna. We had a coalition govenment of ‘national unity’.I know Sir Stafford Cripps used to complain about AVM Harris’s campaign. Mind you Bomber Harris referred to the said minister as Sir Stifford Crapps so there was little love lost between them!
@ Ancient + Tattered Airman @
I took Ms Raccoon to be making a NATO reference:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/1999-04-30/news/18099308_1_errant-nato-nato-spokesman-jamie-shea-albanian
“Chirac asked to review any targets in Montenegro, a small republic of Yugoslavia that had remained democratic and was trying to stay out of the war. Blair wanted a veto over all targets to be struck by B-52 bombers taking off from British soil. And all three leaders wanted to review targets that might cause high casualties or affect a large number of civilians, such as the electrical grid, telephone system and buildings in downtown Belgrade.”
I’m perfectly prepared to believe that Cyril Smith was a pederast. It’s been a rumour for almost as long as I have been a sentient being. But it would have been nice to have a slight nod by the police to the idea of innocent until proven guilty. They could just have said that the CPS would today have prosecuted, and left it at that. (Mind you the CPS last reviewed the files in 1998, so what’s changed?) Instead we have a statement that he was definitely guilty. It almost makes you afraid to dies doesn’t it?
Not so very long ago, within the last three or four years, a Catholic Priest was put on Trial in Australia for sexually abusing two teenage boys. Slam Dunk, you might have thought. Both boys were more than adequately proved, in Court, to be lying. The Priest was Acquitted. But the misery he suffered was awful.
For the modern day version of ‘investigation’ by the powers that be read- witch hunt. We are in the dark ages and we should be very afraid as not only our personal being is threatened but our mental health. Is it a wonder that the figures for those suffering mental ill health are too high and growing? A government committed to insanity no doubt.
Sorry, I forgot to add that all of the lies should have been apparent to The Prosecution before he was ever even charged. And for all I know they were.
In the late 1960s and early 70s I worked in a public service in Lancashire (when Lancashire included much of Manchester, including Rochdale). It was common talk, even among the lower echelons, that Smith was a kiddy fiddler and, not only that, but there were files which were under lock and key.
The reason I say this is to raise the question why, if it was ‘common knowledge’, are the Liberals/Liberal Democrats now able to say that they never heard anything about it? When Clegg was eulogising Smith on his death why did no one whisper ‘take care here’. And if Clegg didn’t know, he should have.
@ Talwin
The legal case against Cyril Smith was referred to in “Private Eye” back in the Seventies so has always been in the public realm. Insofar as your *kiddy fiddler* terminology is concerned, Barry Fitton says he was 15 and the statements at the time were from men aged between 19 and 24. Furthermore, so far as I can tell, the “allegations” seem primarily to refer to the application of corporal punishment – rather than sexual activity. Some Rochdale councillor has chimed in too: “Rossendale councillor Alan Neal said that at the age of 11 he was hit by the politician at a hostel for boys.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-20337495
Presumably someone somewhere might also be able to confirm if Barry Fitton was even at the school at the time. He’s said to be 66 now, so would have been 15 in 1961 – the earliest date of the eight allegations mentioned from 1970. But Barry says he complained in 1979, by which time he would have been 33 and could not have formed part of the 1970 police file.
Fitton’s story sounds quite bizarrre:
“AS far as I can remember Cyril Smith just turned up at my house one day and said: ‘Would you like to come to this hostel, it will be better than your home life’. This was in front of my mother. He said we’ll give you all the food and everything, and it sounded good. So I said Yes.”
Greater Manchester Police have said they are now investigating events – but only those after 1974, when they took over policing for that area (ie they will NOT investigate the actual allegations that have led them to pronounce their *verdict*).
Not sure if the odious Thacker does irony but I had to smile (as an alternative to weeping in frustration) when, on the same day that the Rotherham debacle was being aired on TV news, there was shown a striking example of UKIP’s evil racism as the news cameras followed one Winston McKenzie, the UKIP parliamentary candidate, around Croydon North.
For was not Winston born in Jamaica, and is he not singularly black?
I know someone, in a northern English town very similar to Rotherham, who attended a meeting with social workers present. The town must remain anonymous out of deference to the honest people there; the dishonest ones I am not so sure about.
Anyway, the meeting was over the future of a young person aged about 18 or so with learning difficulties (I must emphasise there was not the slightest suggestion of any untoward sexual behaviour as this was about educational choices) and it proceeded as smoothly as these things can. Then one of the social workers dropped a bombshell. This worker said openly that the young person lived in a house where the parents regularly attended church, and that it was necessary to get the young person away from their influence.
This is an astonishing statement: that the social worker is left-wing (being paid from the tax-enforced public purse is as good a qualification for tyrannical thinking as any) is a given. You might also think, and I could not argue, that out of a sense of loyalty to their doctrine the ‘worker’ had to tread a well worn path of disrupting lives that needed no disruption. The task of the comfortably neurotic social worker elite appears to be to judge and qualify people’s lives on their behalf. But even allowing for that it is astonishing that church-going is labelled as a bad thing.
While it would be hard to imagine a child being removed from a family that attended anything other than a Christian place of worship (sorry, all you girls who have suffered genital mutilation at the hands of your faith-loving family who practise barbaric acts purely for ‘understandable’ cultural reasons) you can see why what in some places passes for ‘normal’ or ‘expected’ behaviour is all wrong for the left. You get the feeling that there is a pre-determined order of the acceptable and unacceptable to the socialists. Thus it would seem cases for these social workers are based less on what is good for the struggling or troubled person and more on what is approved and can be ‘corrected.’
Having a person in the home of Christian church-goers can be duly ‘corrected.’ Just as having foster parents who want Britain to be independent of European membership is just cause for the removal of children who by all accounts were happy enough. Bizarrely, these parents were living the ‘multi-culti’ dream and breaking down barriers of ethnicity by doing the right thing, irrespective of creed, colour or origin.
But it wasn’t the left thing, and that will never do.
Of course, the evils of Thackerism will never rise to the same level as Thatcherism in the eyes of the left, but the philosophy of hate and disruption continues run strongly though their veins. Yet the curious thing is that one day this wonderful new world the left champions so eagerly — one in which all nations can make their home in these islands — will turn round and bite the fervent multi-culti promoters. But that is another story that we can look forward to.
PS: I had a brief conversation with one person who alleged that the children were removed from this couple because of ‘an emergency’ but when I asked what that ‘emergency’ was he switched deftly to saying the courts had approved Rotherham council’s action, so it must be okay. Thereby hangs another tail: if the state can so easily get a judgement in court then the left’s judgement of what is acceptable and what is not is adorned with a stamp of approval.
Disturbing times indeed.
The takes on the Rotherham case have been so vested with interests it says a lot about the state of the country in general. It is virtually ungovernable, leaving the state apparatchik with the upper hand in our lives.
The Sun newspaper (on line) has had a ‘ now you see and then you don’t’ approach when it posted a view/comment following ‘Rotherham social services’ news; which was not its normal line on the Child Protection System. It has deftly removed it after The Guardian newspaper gave another version with details about the case yesterday.
Normal approach: see this poor girl’s cry for help from the Sun: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/deidre/teenworries/4307373/Deidre-Teen-Worries-Im-worried-I-might-be-taken-into-care.html)
This is my search which shows the article, (brought to attention on John Hemming MP’s blog site), listed yet removed now to The Sun readership.:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/search/newSearchAction.do?querystring=Social+workers&submit=+Search+&view=internal&pubName=sol&p=sun&bl=on&navigators=&offset=0&sortby=
The on line blog site run by some social workers and their non managerial counterparts in health, called Not So Big Society, has been so enraged with views taken about Rotherham, by those that challenge their own ‘take’ or approaches to social services, that they now have to all intensive purposes banned those who take an ‘anti social services/ workers’ view point or query their approach- very democratic politics.
Yes indeed the these people who are our jail keepers run the social care system and they do not like to be shouted down, yet are ready to shut the rest of us down when we expose a corrupt system which is more control than care.
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