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		<title>By: Blawg Review #202 &#171; Head-of-Legal</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3658</link>
		<dc:creator>Blawg Review #202 &#171; Head-of-Legal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a micro-breakthrough last week for British legal blogging: the Solicitor General Vera Baird QC MP commented on a blog. Otherwise the big issue was the really extremely generous pension of Sir Fred Goodwin, the former [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a micro-breakthrough last week for British legal blogging: the Solicitor General Vera Baird QC MP commented on a blog. Otherwise the big issue was the really extremely generous pension of Sir Fred Goodwin, the former [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3411</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No  problem. There must be a lot of people who appreciate what you have done and what you are doing! Good for you Jailhouse lawyer that you have somewhere to use your voice. 

Of course ................. we may not have these freedoms shortly! So let&#039;s use &#039;em while we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No  problem. There must be a lot of people who appreciate what you have done and what you are doing! Good for you Jailhouse lawyer that you have somewhere to use your voice. </p>
<p>Of course &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. we may not have these freedoms shortly! So let&#8217;s use &#8216;em while we can.</p>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3410</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoCo: Thanks, it is nice to be appreciated.</description>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3346</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all this Jailhouselawyer. I have enjoyed reading your own site on many occasions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all this Jailhouselawyer. I have enjoyed reading your own site on many occasions.</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3345</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;Zak 03.05.09 at 3:39 pm

    He looks very scary in the first image&#039;&#039;
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Errrm ............... I think that he looks like a killer.

I once knew a guy called Killer funily enough.

One day I couldn&#039;t help but ask him why he was called Killer.  He said, &#039;Because I killed my wife.&#039;&#039;

It&#039;s a funny old World. :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Zak 03.05.09 at 3:39 pm</p>
<p>    He looks very scary in the first image&#8221;<br />
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Errrm &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; I think that he looks like a killer.</p>
<p>I once knew a guy called Killer funily enough.</p>
<p>One day I couldn&#8217;t help but ask him why he was called Killer.  He said, &#8216;Because I killed my wife.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a funny old World. <img src='http://www.annaraccoon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zorro</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>Zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vera, thanks so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to put us plebs back in our place.

So what you are saying is in effect; if I kill someone while driving, as long as I&#039;m not texting that is fine is it?

Could you please explain WHY his Lordship was only charged with dangerous driving WHEN HE KILLED SOMEONE?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that he was driving dangerously, texting, he then stopped texting and so stopped driving dangerously, then killed someone while driving completely _safely_? Are you really saying that?

You guys really are taking lessons from 1984 and Animal Farm aren&#039;t you? You&#039;re taking DoubleSpeak to a level even Orwell would have been impressed with. You do know those books are warnings, not instruction manuals for stupid authoritarian governments don&#039;t you?

Do you actually believe the brown stuff that comes out of your keyboard?

437 days to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vera, thanks so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to put us plebs back in our place.</p>
<p>So what you are saying is in effect; if I kill someone while driving, as long as I&#8217;m not texting that is fine is it?</p>
<p>Could you please explain WHY his Lordship was only charged with dangerous driving WHEN HE KILLED SOMEONE?</p>
<p>Are you seriously trying to suggest that he was driving dangerously, texting, he then stopped texting and so stopped driving dangerously, then killed someone while driving completely _safely_? Are you really saying that?</p>
<p>You guys really are taking lessons from 1984 and Animal Farm aren&#8217;t you? You&#8217;re taking DoubleSpeak to a level even Orwell would have been impressed with. You do know those books are warnings, not instruction manuals for stupid authoritarian governments don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Do you actually believe the brown stuff that comes out of your keyboard?</p>
<p>437 days to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He looks very scary in the first image, do you think the Sun doctored it to make him look more like a crazed immigrant taking up valuable space in our prisons that could be reserved for hard working British criminals...  As for the prison itself; you call those bars? they look no thicker than twice the width of a human hair to me.  Still it is nice to see that he is &#039;getting stuck in&#039; to that pinnacle of rehabilitation- mopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He looks very scary in the first image, do you think the Sun doctored it to make him look more like a crazed immigrant taking up valuable space in our prisons that could be reserved for hard working British criminals&#8230;  As for the prison itself; you call those bars? they look no thicker than twice the width of a human hair to me.  Still it is nice to see that he is &#8216;getting stuck in&#8217; to that pinnacle of rehabilitation- mopping.</p>
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		<title>By: old holborn</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>old holborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, link

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2278360.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2278360.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2278360.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: old holborn</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator>old holborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell them you read it in the Sun. They&#039;ve even got pictures of him mopping out his cell</description>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3318</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have now learnt that there is a internal inquiry going on in the Prison Service to discover why Serco gave me the security details in relation to Lord Ahmed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have now learnt that there is a internal inquiry going on in the Prison Service to discover why Serco gave me the security details in relation to Lord Ahmed.</p>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3312</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zak: I noted the criteria as well and did not think he had been in long enough to have had a home leave, let alone complete any offending behaviour courses like ordinary prisoners have to submit to.

I fully expected that the red carpet would be rolled out for this high profile public figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zak: I noted the criteria as well and did not think he had been in long enough to have had a home leave, let alone complete any offending behaviour courses like ordinary prisoners have to submit to.</p>
<p>I fully expected that the red carpet would be rolled out for this high profile public figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3311</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or because his relocation puts their number at 261 prisoners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or because his relocation puts their number at 261 prisoners?</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3310</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jailhouselawyer, are you suggesting he shouldn&#039;t be in such a prison because he hasn&#039;t &quot;completed a term of home leave from a closed establishment&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jailhouselawyer, are you suggesting he shouldn&#8217;t be in such a prison because he hasn&#8217;t &#8220;completed a term of home leave from a closed establishment&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3309</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prisoner number XP5810 Nazir Ahmed was transferred from Doncatraz to Moorland open prison on 26 February 2009.

The Prison Service website provides the following information...

&quot;Moorland Open
Moorland is located near Doncaster.
Address:
Thorne Road
Hatfield
DONCASTER
South Yorkshire
DN7 6EL
Tel: 01405 746500
Fax: 01405 746501

Governor: Tom Wheatley

Accommodation (Young Offenders): One unit housing 60 young offenders in single cellular accommodation. This unit is drug free and subject to VDT or compliance testing. (There are also four adult Category D Units). 

Adults: Two units each housing 40 Cat D&#039;s and two units housing 60 Cat D&#039;s, all in single cellular accommodation. (There is one YOI unit).

Reception criteria (Young Offenders): 18 to 21 years. Up to 4 years and at least 21 days left to serve. Under section 53(2) of the Children and Young Persons Act, prisoners are accepted under HQ&#039;s instruction once they have reached 18 years of age.

Suitability: Any prisoner who has successfully completed a term of home leave from a closed establishment should be considered suitable for open conditions and therefore Moorland Open will consider any such prisoner. 

Any prisoner whose risk increases or who becomes unsuitable will be lodged in Moorland Closed and then returned to the sending prison.
 
Operational Capacity: 260 as of 29th August 2008 &quot;.

The Governor Tom Wheatley is the son of the present Director General of the National Offender Management Service, Phil Wheatley, who,  Jailhouselawyer considers to be a good friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prisoner number XP5810 Nazir Ahmed was transferred from Doncatraz to Moorland open prison on 26 February 2009.</p>
<p>The Prison Service website provides the following information&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Moorland Open<br />
Moorland is located near Doncaster.<br />
Address:<br />
Thorne Road<br />
Hatfield<br />
DONCASTER<br />
South Yorkshire<br />
DN7 6EL<br />
Tel: 01405 746500<br />
Fax: 01405 746501</p>
<p>Governor: Tom Wheatley</p>
<p>Accommodation (Young Offenders): One unit housing 60 young offenders in single cellular accommodation. This unit is drug free and subject to VDT or compliance testing. (There are also four adult Category D Units). </p>
<p>Adults: Two units each housing 40 Cat D&#8217;s and two units housing 60 Cat D&#8217;s, all in single cellular accommodation. (There is one YOI unit).</p>
<p>Reception criteria (Young Offenders): 18 to 21 years. Up to 4 years and at least 21 days left to serve. Under section 53(2) of the Children and Young Persons Act, prisoners are accepted under HQ&#8217;s instruction once they have reached 18 years of age.</p>
<p>Suitability: Any prisoner who has successfully completed a term of home leave from a closed establishment should be considered suitable for open conditions and therefore Moorland Open will consider any such prisoner. </p>
<p>Any prisoner whose risk increases or who becomes unsuitable will be lodged in Moorland Closed and then returned to the sending prison.</p>
<p>Operational Capacity: 260 as of 29th August 2008 &#8220;.</p>
<p>The Governor Tom Wheatley is the son of the present Director General of the National Offender Management Service, Phil Wheatley, who,  Jailhouselawyer considers to be a good friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Poynton</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Poynton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh? So this guy wasn&#039;t killed by dangerous driving? This begs the question - what DID kill him? 

Over to you, Ms. Solicitor-General. After all, you are the legal expert. Allegedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh? So this guy wasn&#8217;t killed by dangerous driving? This begs the question &#8211; what DID kill him? </p>
<p>Over to you, Ms. Solicitor-General. After all, you are the legal expert. Allegedly.</p>
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		<title>By: 6000</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3291</link>
		<dc:creator>6000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he was paying full attention to his driving, what was he doing crashing into vehicles parked on the hard shoulder? 

I don&#039;t even do that when I&#039;m on the phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he was paying full attention to his driving, what was he doing crashing into vehicles parked on the hard shoulder? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even do that when I&#8217;m on the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartan</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>Spartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something else to consider. lf we only have data from time of last text to time of 999 call them how is time of crash calculated?

lf, as we are told, the distance between place of last text and crash is 2 miles ... then at 60mph it would be a mile a minute ... therefore 2 miles.
But the actually said 60mph+. What does that mean 70?, 80? 90?more?

The faster the Jag was travelling, the time period between text and crash gets less!

 Speed cannot acurately be calculated from scene of crash as his Jag hit the Audi (therefore not just depending on Jag breaking) so the tyre skid marks can only give a minimum speed not the maximum.

Also note that exact pinpointing of position of phone from mobile phone records gets very vague in rural areas unlike cities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking

Quote &quot;Qualified services may achieve a precision of down to 50 meters in urban areas where mobile traffic and density of antenna towers (base stations) is sufficiently high. Rural and desolate areas may see miles between base stations and therefore determine locations less precisely.&quot;

Of course we would have had all these questions answered IF the more serious charge had not been dropped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something else to consider. lf we only have data from time of last text to time of 999 call them how is time of crash calculated?</p>
<p>lf, as we are told, the distance between place of last text and crash is 2 miles &#8230; then at 60mph it would be a mile a minute &#8230; therefore 2 miles.<br />
But the actually said 60mph+. What does that mean 70?, 80? 90?more?</p>
<p>The faster the Jag was travelling, the time period between text and crash gets less!</p>
<p> Speed cannot acurately be calculated from scene of crash as his Jag hit the Audi (therefore not just depending on Jag breaking) so the tyre skid marks can only give a minimum speed not the maximum.</p>
<p>Also note that exact pinpointing of position of phone from mobile phone records gets very vague in rural areas unlike cities. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking</a></p>
<p>Quote &#8220;Qualified services may achieve a precision of down to 50 meters in urban areas where mobile traffic and density of antenna towers (base stations) is sufficiently high. Rural and desolate areas may see miles between base stations and therefore determine locations less precisely.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course we would have had all these questions answered IF the more serious charge had not been dropped.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In approx 2 mins we are supposed to believe the &#039;official&#039; version that he wasn&#039;t using his phone, had a crash, was knocked out, then came round and THEN a 999 call was made on the same phone???? This is where the timescale comes in, and was calculated between his last text and the 999 call ... (and this time has to be exact by the way, not approx. Time of 999 call minus time of text ... it is an impossibility to be approx!)

There has been some manipulation here. Think about it, you see it on tv with the rugby. When even momentarily knocked out it takes a while to come to your senses.

How about he crashed WHEN he sent the last text? ... 2 mins later the 999 call was then made?
...........................................................................

Phillipa Curtis? was she actually texting AT the time of crash or BEFORE the crash? ... say 1 sec?2 secs?5 secs?10 secs? 30 secs? 1 min? 2 mins? &gt;&gt;&gt; oop&#039;s in Ahmed territory now (official version)

What is official time period that one has to breach before &#039; using your phone whilst driving&#039; can be  attribute to a car accident? 

The &#039;official&#039; version just does not stand up to scrutiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In approx 2 mins we are supposed to believe the &#8216;official&#8217; version that he wasn&#8217;t using his phone, had a crash, was knocked out, then came round and THEN a 999 call was made on the same phone???? This is where the timescale comes in, and was calculated between his last text and the 999 call &#8230; (and this time has to be exact by the way, not approx. Time of 999 call minus time of text &#8230; it is an impossibility to be approx!)</p>
<p>There has been some manipulation here. Think about it, you see it on tv with the rugby. When even momentarily knocked out it takes a while to come to your senses.</p>
<p>How about he crashed WHEN he sent the last text? &#8230; 2 mins later the 999 call was then made?<br />
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<p>Phillipa Curtis? was she actually texting AT the time of crash or BEFORE the crash? &#8230; say 1 sec?2 secs?5 secs?10 secs? 30 secs? 1 min? 2 mins? &gt;&gt;&gt; oop&#8217;s in Ahmed territory now (official version)</p>
<p>What is official time period that one has to breach before &#8216; using your phone whilst driving&#8217; can be  attribute to a car accident? </p>
<p>The &#8216;official&#8217; version just does not stand up to scrutiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3266</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Holborn 03.04.09 at 10:07 pm

    Vera luv

    As I said to Tom Harris MP just yesterday,

    fuck off
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Wow! This is mint! Does this mean I can let the real Coco out of her box again please? I love using that F word. :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Holborn 03.04.09 at 10:07 pm</p>
<p>    Vera luv</p>
<p>    As I said to Tom Harris MP just yesterday,</p>
<p>    fuck off<br />
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Wow! This is mint! Does this mean I can let the real Coco out of her box again please? I love using that F word. <img src='http://www.annaraccoon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/our-lord-in-doncaster-continued/#comment-3265</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Holborn says: &#039;................... I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Holborn says: &#8216;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. I</p>
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