Once again our glorious government has (dare I say it?) screwed the pooch with some new, knee-jerk legislative proposals:
Every dog owner in the UK would have to take out insurance against their pet attacking someone under government proposals to tackle dangerous breeds.
Police and local councils could also get new powers to force the owners of dangerous dogs to muzzle them or even get them neutered.
Why oh why oh why is it so consarned difficult for the government to get the slightest thing right?
Let’s start with the basic premise here: any dog, even a Peke or a Pomeranian is a descendent of a wolf. Even that lolling, happy Golden Retriever. So it’s true that deep down, any dog has the potential to be dangerous. However, most breeds have had the danger bred out of them and most people don’t want a dangerous dog, so they don’t buy “dangerous” dogs. So why are all dog owners being told that they have to have this insurance? Why aren’t specific dangerous breeds being targeted? And in fact, why aren’t just individual dangerous dogs being targeted?
I’ve known Rottweilers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers that were as docile as lambs because they were trained to perfection. But their owners still wouldn’t leave children with them unattended. Their owners would always make sure that the dogs were properly locked up when (invited) strangers were roaming the property to avoid risk as far as possible. The dogs were always leashed in public and brought to heel if other dogs were around. If it sounds like the owners were remarkably considerate and intelligent, then that’s because they were.
Which brings us to the real issue here: while any dog can be dangerous, conversely (almost) any “dangerous” dog can be made safe by a combination of training and consideration. The issue here is that the people who are buying dangerous dogs and want dangerous dogs shouldn’t be allowed to take their dangerous dogs out in public. There should be a very clear policy of one warning and then the dog is put down. If they want a dangerous dog, they can keep in their own property and deal with the “issues arising” themselves.
But anyway, why are we even discussing this, apart from the fact that there’s an election impending and the postman is posturing to look tough to try and win votes?
Each week, more than 100 people are admitted to hospital after dog attacks.
There are approximately twenty-five million households in the UK. Approximately one in five has a dog (it’s slightly more, but it’s going to be easier to work with round-ish numbers here) so we have roughly five million dog-owning homes and roughly five thousand dog attacks per annum. Let’s be generous and say “more than 100 means 200″, even though it’s more likely to be 101. This means that 0.00002% of dog owners own dogs that have attacked someone enough that they go to a doctor about it, every year. And really, some of those attacks will have been someone being wilfully stupid, as well. Do all dog owners really need the cost and hassle of this because of the behaviour of, at worst, 0.00002% of dog owners? (And I have no axe to grind, I’ve never owned a dog and it’s extremely unlikely that I ever will!)
The government wants to amend the 1991 Dangerous Dogs Act, under which four types of dogs – the pit bull terrier, the Japanese tosa, the dogo Argentinos and the fila brasileiros – are banned.
It wants to tweak the law so that the breeds are banned from people’s homes – rather than simply from public property, as is currently the case.
It is argued that this will also protect postal workers, telecoms engineers and other people whose work often takes them onto private land.
Oh dear. There is a much simpler way of doing this, isn’t there? Put the post box outside the property and lock the dog away if a stranger has to have access. Writing a general law on the basis of a handful of rather poor specific cases is a terrible thing to do.
Anyway, here’s the tough talk from the postman:
Home Secretary Alan Johnson said: “Britain is a nation of animal lovers, but people have a fundamental right to feel safe on the streets and in their homes.
“The vast majority of dog owners are responsible, but there is no doubt that some people breed and keep dogs for the soul purpose of intimidating others, in a sense using dogs as a weapon.
“It is this sort of behaviour that we will not tolerate; it is this sort of behaviour that we are determined to stop.”
Really, Mr Johnson? Determined to stop the behaviour of the tiniest of minorities with pointless and expensive bureaucracy that only the people who are keeping “safe” dogs will pay the blindest bit of attention to anyway?
Some other postmen are up in arms as well:
Postal unions welcomed the move as “long overdue”.
“Thousands of our members are attacked at work every year,” said Billy Hayes, general secretary of the CWU.
Thousands of your members are attacked every year? The very thought brings tears to my eyes.
But I would say that a postman has the right to safety, and if he doesn’t trust the dog, he really should just leave the post in the gate or fence. The owners of dangerous dogs shouldn’t escape all consequences for their decisions.
And it’s also rather curious that the people owning “dangerous” dogs are not actually being punished, even if they do actually bother to take out the insurance: quite unlike “victims” of second-hand smoke, where the owner of the premises can wind up in jail like Nick Hogan did, there is no direct punishment meted out to even insured transgressors – the real cost burden is borne by all insured dog owners. And the more attacks there are, the higher their premiums will be, even if their own dogs are sweet as pie! If they followed the line of argument that held sway in smoking debate, we might have seen the delicious prospect of Glasgow Council Leader Steven Purcell jailed for being the technical owner of premises known to house the tattooed, drug-addled, foul mouthed, Stella swigging owner of a savage attack dog.
Let’s face it, those dogs are rarely owned by Conservative voting, moustachioed, retired admirals in Surrey.
But curiously, in this particular case, society is to blame and must bear the costs.
It is left to the increasingly useless RSPCA to point out that the proposed legislation is utterly worthless:
The RSPCA said a serious debate on the issue was needed, concentrating on curbing irresponsible pet ownership.
“There is a real need for updated legislation that enables enforcers to tackle the problem effectively and prevent serious incidents from occurring rather than waiting till after a tragedy or penalising certain dogs just because of their breed or type.”
Which is exactly what this regulation will not help: it will not prevent tragedies and it will penalise the owners of all dogs for the behaviour of an insignificant minority. It will ignore all efforts by responsible owners to prevent any tragedy. In fact, I suspect it will lead to even more attacks, as people care less and less about the consequences of their lack of training for all dogs, not just dangerous ones.
There is already sufficient bad legislation to take care of such situations, we do not need any more. I can only assume that this is an example of the nonsensical pandering to unions that the Labour government will be offering us in the run-up to the general election in order to keep the brothers on side and donating generously.

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A lot of owners have their dogs insured for more than third party anyway to cover the prospect of ever increasing vet bills. In addition the “Rescue” charities are often micro-chipping them as a matter of course when they rehome a dog.
If this were really about the H&S of postment and the like then it could probably be argued that when they came to a house they are at work so the current rules apply
Overall another stealth tax and the keeping of ever more people unproductively employed in administering all the paperwork
With all due respect, I think you are underestimating the danger posed by a scorned poodle. Nasty little buggers.
Whilst I completely agree with what you’re saying in this post, I think your maths is a little faulty.
200 attacks per week means 10,000 per year.
With 5 million dog-owning homes that means 0.2%, not 0.00002%, of dog-owners have a dog that puts someone in hospital each year (assuming of course that each dog only attacks somebody once).
Fido for PM
Bring on the election, we’ve had Bush’s Poodle and look at the aftermath…!!!
“It is left to the increasingly useless RSPCA to point out that the proposed legislation is utterly worthless:
By calling for more authority for their ‘enforcers’.
Again and again legislation is not aimed at troublemakers but at the law abiding majority. Why? Don’t they want to deal with trouble? Too difficult to prosecute people for assault/GBH/whatever else? If someone uses a dog as a weapon microchips and insurance will make no difference.(Unless the victim manages to detain the dog.)
Will the opposition point this out?
This is just pure posturing. Considering the time left for this parliament the law won’t come into force any time soon. If (BIG if) Labour come into power, then they will push down the priority list. If the Tories come into power, they will have a lot more on their plate than silly things like this. In a hung parliament there will be too much disagreement to make it happen.
I don’t think many retired Admirals have moustaches!
Generals, maybe, but members of The Royal Navy may not grow facial hair solely on the upper lip – only a “full set” is allowed and that WITH permission.
So – Admirals are more likely to have a full set, whether they be serving or retired!
I think the theory goes ‘Something must be done. This is something. Therefore it must be done’
The fact that all concerned are now ripping it to shreds ought to give them pause. But it won’t.
I think that lateral thinking points to a solution. Why not get that lovely Jamie Oliver to launch a new tele program – perhaps “Pukka Puppies” would do, to advise on the best ways to prepare and present different breeds. As the recession deepens, I feel that we would see a steepening decline in the dog population.
Julia
surely, you mean ‘paws’ not pause….?
Let us not be too pedantic today Blink – I’ve just had an e-mail from a Russian journalist who is anxiously awaiting news of Nick Hogan -
‘Thank-you for the massage, it relieve the tension’……….
Anybody up to a suitable reply – in Russian!!!!
Edited to add: actually it was ‘thank-you for the kind massage….’
That’s why I’m a cat person – they may be aloof and self-absorbed, but I’ve always preferred independence to obedience.
Vimes,
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Re. the “massage” – you could always tell him that it had a happy ending!
man bites dog
hi ho, i have been following this story since postman pat opened his gob on it.
I have two large dogs a ridgeback and a husky(rescued dog), in the area i live in most people have small dogs such as terriers or spaniels or worse they have snotty children, recently the council applied a law that no dog was allowed off the lead or path thru the access area to a free common… guess what do people with prams even give you the slightest bit of space to walk thru… no. do they tell their sprogs to go pat the dog… yes.
My dogs sensibly do not like children but would never bite them they just don’t like them (must have got that from me).
People with smaller dogs seem to think it is ok to walk them off leash and then get upset when my girls get excited even though i walk mine on the leash(unfortunately for them).
I have unfortunately seen the real idiots including one well suntanned young chap with a 12-20week old staffie cross who held the pup by the leash until it was choking shouting at my girls ” kill kill kill” what a complete fuckwit and so sad for the puppy. this is the world that we live in though and the innocent always seem to be the victims.
oddly enough all my girls chase is squirrels, they even leave the two cats i have alone, although i wouldn’t want to try and burgle my place
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Ah, Bygro bach, that’s between me and my referendum paper, but I’m not holding my breath.
We leave a Staffy with kids. Staffies are amazing with children, it is only the dogs cross bred with them that are trouble. In fact the unbelievable strength and toughness of the Staf is one of the reasons it is great for kids. No matter how they pull its ears or karate chop it, they only get love back in return. Impossible to hurt the little blighter.
The other dogs are all massive and knock anyone under 6 down without even noticing.
BTW, did anyone here the MENSA candidates talking about their pitbull crosses on the Today program this morning? Enough to make you weep.
‘hear’
oh the irony.
Read before you press submit… Read before you press submit…
I’m all in favour of more stringent control regarding dangerous animals. Why, once I took the school gerbil home for half-term and it bit every single member of my family. Tax the owners, I say.
Pet rabbits have sharp teeth and powerful back legs, thus being able to sink an incisor into the bone of an index finger while at the same time using both legs to ribbon the soft tissue from a forearm without a second thought. Wave as many dandelions as you like at some rabbits and they’ll still not be happy until they have rent some flesh asunder. Tax the owners, I say.
Horses are huge with big teeth and powerful jaws and kicky legs and pushy natures and can piss and plop copiously enough to cause a skid-hazard in the blink of an eye. Bend down to pick up the manure and you’re as likely to have your teeth or spine kicked in as you are to have some 2″ yellowing tombstone-teeth sunk into your backside as you are to find you’ve lost a thumb trying to soothe the magnificent beast with a slice of apple. Tax the owners, I say.
On the question of dogs, I’d offer that the behaviour of dogs reflects the attitude of their owners and it’s a simple as that. If I saw a giddy girl carrying a chihuahua around in her handbag I would no more extend a caressing hand to that dog than I would stick my fist in a blender. I’d expect the dog to be a pampered, spoilt, snappy snarl-machine whose character had been shaped by the ‘ickle-precious’ attitude of its owner. I wouldn’t be surprised to find a few ‘ickle-precious turdy-poohs’ lining the bottom of the bag either.
If I saw a guide dog leading a blind person into the dental practice, I would expect that dog to have received professional training and to have passed a test as proof of its co-operative nature and reliability to do its job without savaging other patients in the waiting room. (same arguments could be applied to mountain rescue dogs, bomb-sniffer dogs, police dogs, dogs that go into hospitals and hospices to be patted and hearing dogs for the deaf)
It says it all, really, that dog owners are now supposed to insure their dogs against the legal implications of a nasty nip. My guess is that veterinary practices will be encouraged to recommend to their clients the insurance services of a certain White & Hall Insurance Services (MRCVS, HA, Tee-Hee) just as they are now encouraging pet-owners to subscribe to PetPlan. And then everyone will be on just one more government cross-checked list. Which is nice.
Heaven forbid that an RSPCA inspector or a VET (who spend their time checking on the welfare of animals) should be given just that little bit more authority and, rather than having to double, triple and quadruple check with the bigger authorities (the police, the council, the traffic warden etc.) should be able to act and get the backup they need to remove what they know to be a dangerous dog from dangerous people. Remember, these people know better than anyone how overcrowded the animal rescue centres are and aren’t going to be keen to shove another creature onto the re-homing/put down register without good cause.
Then again, tax the owners. Bah.
This damn government likes to punish everyone for the sins of Chav Scum pit bullowners and Pakistanti dog fighters. We have three chihuahuas. They couldn’t savage a stuffed sock (well, only a bit), let alone a child or adult. Getting this kind of insurance would see thousands of dogs abandoned and thence killed. Why don’t Nu Labour get the cops to enforce the law?