Comments on: Divining Loyalties http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/ A jaundiced view of the mainstream media. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:59:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bugger http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12117 Bugger Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:56:44 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12117 Touch Touch

]]> By: Anna Raccoon http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12113 Anna Raccoon Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:04:48 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12113 Bugger, I particularly love the ex-pats round here who cheerfully tell you that they left England becasue of all the immigrants 'who dress funny, don't bother to learn English, only buy from the Paki shops...' It is great fun to then innocently enquire where they bought that wonderful shirt/skirt/jumper, which is invariably Marks & Spencers last time they went 'back to see the Grandchildren', then lead them gently into a conversation on how they are getting on with learning French...by the time you get to say 'it is difficult being an immigrant here in France, isn't it'...its too late, they have fallen clean into the trap. Has livened up many a dinner party for me! Bugger,

I particularly love the ex-pats round here who cheerfully tell you that they left England becasue of all the immigrants ‘who dress funny, don’t bother to learn English, only buy from the Paki shops…’
It is great fun to then innocently enquire where they bought that wonderful shirt/skirt/jumper, which is invariably Marks & Spencers last time they went ‘back to see the Grandchildren’, then lead them gently into a conversation on how they are getting on with learning French…by the time you get to say ‘it is difficult being an immigrant here in France, isn’t it’…its too late, they have fallen clean into the trap.
Has livened up many a dinner party for me!

]]> By: Bugger http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12110 Bugger Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:00:45 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12110 wrt The French Magrebians They are quite blatantly discriminated against. It was only relatively recently that you could see a black or Arab face on the tele talking about France like any normal French citizen of a blancher palour. French people were in amazement about how Trevor McDonald was lionised and Bruno too. Football is not a white man's sport any more and is largely the province of the immigrants or various hues. Rugby is the white man's game in France. I think it is only very recently that a Deput wrt The French Magrebians

They are quite blatantly discriminated against.

It was only relatively recently that you could see a black or Arab face on the tele talking about France like any normal French citizen of a blancher palour.

French people were in amazement about how Trevor McDonald was lionised and Bruno too.

Football is not a white man’s sport any more and is largely the province of the immigrants or various hues. Rugby is the white man’s game in France.

I think it is only very recently that a Deput

]]> By: Bugger http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12109 Bugger Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:49:19 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12109 How coe the Fisc have snitches everywhere, starting with the Postman or Postwoman? They snitch bigtime Algerians as Albigensian, does that make them Cathars or offspring of the Crusaders? I saw a lot of red haired Tunisians in my travels. France is a construct and Paris set about fashioning it by way of the common educational programme, same book same page for every child of the same age. The teachers were state employees and were deliberately posted away from their place of birth. The Gendermerie are a reminder of that melding of a nation in that they are rotated around France. They were the force that the centre used to put down the revolting provincial peasants, from time to time. I used to ake the mistake about the French as the French make about the British or English. The view is always coloured by the inhabitants of the respective capitals which was what most people visited when travelling abroad. The Gersois, where I live are pretty contemptuous of Parisians and thus Frencg politics. Funny that? How coe the Fisc have snitches everywhere, starting with the Postman or Postwoman?

They snitch bigtime

Algerians as Albigensian, does that make them Cathars or offspring of the Crusaders?

I saw a lot of red haired Tunisians in my travels.

France is a construct and Paris set about fashioning it by way of the common educational programme, same book same page for every child of the same age. The teachers were state employees and were deliberately posted away from their place of birth.

The Gendermerie are a reminder of that melding of a nation in that they are rotated around France. They were the force that the centre used to put down the revolting provincial peasants, from time to time.

I used to ake the mistake about the French as the French make about the British or English. The view is always coloured by the inhabitants of the respective capitals which was what most people visited when travelling abroad.

The Gersois, where I live are pretty contemptuous of Parisians and thus Frencg politics. Funny that?

]]> By: Saul http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12082 Saul Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:51:41 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12082 For For

]]> By: Demetrius http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12081 Demetrius Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:47:10 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12081 Given the amount of population movement around the Med' down the centuries, and the activities of the corsairs etc. in people taking in northern Europe, these "Algerians" could have a very mixed bag of genes between them. The Trinitarians were present as far north as Ayr. But then Algeria is a recent construct as so many "nations" are, and as you point out France itself. I wonder how many Algerians could be of Albigensian emigrant stock. Given the amount of population movement around the Med’ down the centuries, and the activities of the corsairs etc. in people taking in northern Europe, these “Algerians” could have a very mixed bag of genes between them. The Trinitarians were present as far north as Ayr. But then Algeria is a recent construct as so many “nations” are, and as you point out France itself. I wonder how many Algerians could be of Albigensian emigrant stock.

]]> By: john ward http://www.annaraccoon.com/politics/divining-loyalties/#comment-12080 john ward Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:05:17 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5364#comment-12080 I think the Vietnamese and Algerian populations might have integrated a little better had the French not herded them into banlieux and barracks fifty-plus years ago, and then forgotten about them. But it's a rum old place France, is it not? Manages to avoid the ravages of the free markets and the Iraq War - with all the obvious advantages thereto - and then promptly votes in Sarkozy, an admirer of their authors. Nice piece, this. It challenges liberal values, which is always healthy at a point in history when such values have become 'correct'. And between the lines, there is I fancy the common-sense of all those not blinded by building Babels: for if nationalism remains such an elemental force,what chance does this flimsy EU have? 'None at all' hoped the audience silently. YM x I think the Vietnamese and Algerian populations might have integrated a little better had the French not herded them into banlieux and barracks fifty-plus years ago, and then forgotten about them.
But it’s a rum old place France, is it not? Manages to avoid the ravages of the free markets and the Iraq War – with all the obvious advantages thereto – and then promptly votes in Sarkozy, an admirer of their authors.
Nice piece, this. It challenges liberal values, which is always healthy at a point in history when such values have become ‘correct’. And between the lines, there is I fancy the common-sense of all those not blinded by building Babels: for if nationalism remains such an elemental force,what chance does this flimsy EU have?
‘None at all’ hoped the audience silently.
YM x

]]>