Comments on: Coming to a Street Near You!

By: Di Gestive

Di Gestive — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:11:15 +0000

Climate change – the benefits:

Creates new jobs to support emerging industries related to climate change
Holds people accountable for their mad consumerist behaviour
Will piss off the Americans
The rest of the world’s population will be able to join the British in the ongoing discussions about the daily weather

Change – the only constant in our lives – nothing new here, it’s just that climate change is happening in our lifetime this time round.

By: The Dean

The Dean — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:33:35 +0000

When it comes to matters of the environment, climate, etc, I always turn to my particular guru, Dr David Evans……….

http://sciencespeak.com/NoEvidence.pdf

By: Châtelaine

Châtelaine — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:12 +0000

but, of course, it’s the CO2 to blame. Tiny little problem is that CO2 is heavier than air, so how does it get up there and influence our climate?

OK, OK, I’m gone … Good night

By: Châtelaine

Châtelaine — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:19:50 +0000

after you concrete your way around borders of highways and other ways to prevent “MUD” around your place and the water goes … even faster. Yep.

By: Châtelaine

Châtelaine — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:17:51 +0000

and same about rivers: you “normalise” them and they flow faster and higher. And you built your wonderful houses close with a beautiful view of the water … Chips! Flood ..!

By: Châtelaine

Châtelaine — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:16:24 +0000

Yes, that one, Lily …;-)

By: lily

lily — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:07:48 +0000

I’d like to know what Gordon and crew are going to do about that bloody yellow disc that hangs in the sky. You know the one that has the nerve to be going through silly active phases of more sunspots and flares than usual.

Solar temper tantrums must be stopped. Give it an ASBO.

By: sickofit

sickofit — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:56:10 +0000

I live in the south of Cumbria and am well aware that shit happens and rivers, streams, and becks can and do overflow.
The nearest one to me that flooded a few houses is 13 miles away. All our local ones managed to cope with the deluge as they are not really ‘man managed’.

If you build all over a flood plain, then channel and constrain the river at some point it’s inevitable that the river will fight back and flood our man made world.

Cockermouths flood appears to have been much worse because of the flood defences installed after the 2005 flood. As blink says it’s bugger all to do with climate change or global warming it’s just what rivers do!

By: Blink

Blink — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:15:44 +0000

Man made climate change is and always has been bollocks.

I was in Cockermouth, Kendal and Ambleside only last week. It is sad to see the state it’s in at the moment and hear cries from some quarters for them to be ‘left in the mess’. The media coverage is as usual blinkered – we are all apparently spellbound by the wait of crushing bridges. It is all nonsense. And of course, all those elements of the police state have moved in to limit people’s movements there, thereby entailing 40 -90 mile round trips for locals just to see family. If this was another country or the south eastof England we would see a very different approach to dealing with things. The pity is that it’s not happening in Westminster – a plague on all their houses!

The local people will make a go of things. Questions will be rightly raised about infrastructure – given that we live in a country where the philosophy is cheap & cheerful, it’s not surprising some things don’t last. Brown’s stunt of offering money that is already earmarked for the area is another piece of cynicism from a corrupt and discredited bunch of criminals. However, the weather has been remarkable and the area has not been able to cope. THis has nothing to do with climate change.

By: ivan

ivan — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:48:05 +0000

One wonders if a little bit of river management – like dredging and removing the obstacles that prevent free flow of the water – would have lessened, or even prevented, the flooding.

I don’t know about your area Anna, but down here the equip do an annual clean up of the ditches at the sides of the roads and a general clean out of the waterways, even the river gets a good clean up every so often.

My sister, in England, told me that some of those that moved to her village from the city complained about the drainage ditches on their road and had them filled in then wondered why their gardens flooded – stupidity manifest.

By: Ed P

Ed P — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:44:03 +0000

There was most unseasonable hail in Kent yesterday. Bloody hell, if this goes on, we might have an actual winter!

By: Sue

Sue — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:11 +0000

I can’t remember the last time we had snow in the part of the UK where I used to live anyway. The South has rarely enjoyed the sort of snow that mountainous regions enjoy, even 20 years ago!

By: Alexander Davidson

Alexander Davidson — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:31:28 +0000

The key issue is whether for political and/or commercial reasons, climate data from the past have been changed to hide or reduce in magnitude ‘anomalies’ such as the Mediaeval Warm Period [when the Vikings farmed in Vinland], when such anomalies run counter to the AGW hypothesis. The latter has spawned a $2 billion/year research and bureaucratic industry and has allegedly led to some such as Al Gore and George Soros to become very rich by early investment in green industries, also to the Easter-island like cult of the windmills and Red-Green activism, currently being used by those who want to disinter Trotskyism!

It has also been acknowledged that instrumental data from the 1980s have been ‘lost’: what we have now are modified data sets. Furthermore, a FORTRAN programme present in the hoard of data/text has comments in it apparently describing how it has been structured to overlook data which deviates from a desired result.

Such events happen all the time in science. However, publicly funded research which has led to such major political changes, e.g. binding EU legislation should be publicly available.

I note that some e-mails from the very top allegedly refer to the withholding of data from a FOI request. Allegedly, such a request was refused on or about the 12th/13th November, about the time the leaker first tried to put the ‘FOIA’ archive onto the RealClimate website, but it was refused. The file then ended up on an anonymous FTP site in Russia and various other sites were e-mailed with a suggestion they download the archive.