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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
		<link>http://www.annaraccoon.com/madeleine-mccann/justice-eady-nightjack-no-hiding-place-for-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-7442</link>
		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plato June 17, 2009 at 10:21 am

[...]  twisting the tiger by the tail is never a clever idea.
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Riding the tiger neither; you cannot get off anymore ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plato June 17, 2009 at 10:21 am</p>
<p>[...]  twisting the tiger by the tail is never a clever idea.<br />
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Riding the tiger neither; you cannot get off anymore &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonybloggers &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to be good at covering their tracks. Night Jack&#039;s exposure is a lesson in how not to do it and anonyblogging will be better for it.

Old Holborn and others can request information about our betters and it magically appears.(Though how can they corroborate it?) That is no longer the preserve of the behind-closed-doors media and Night Jack&#039;s case will push things further into our own hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonybloggers <i>need</i> to be good at covering their tracks. Night Jack&#8217;s exposure is a lesson in how not to do it and anonyblogging will be better for it.</p>
<p>Old Holborn and others can request information about our betters and it magically appears.(Though how can they corroborate it?) That is no longer the preserve of the behind-closed-doors media and Night Jack&#8217;s case will push things further into our own hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Times and that lightweight Foster appear to have scored a massive own goal.

They take out a very popular blogger for a few column inches and look what happens - twisting the tiger by the tail is never a clever idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times and that lightweight Foster appear to have scored a massive own goal.</p>
<p>They take out a very popular blogger for a few column inches and look what happens &#8211; twisting the tiger by the tail is never a clever idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Cascadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cascadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can suppose that Nightjack wished to retain a certain level of anonimitty because he is dealing with scum who would want to harm him or his family  (I am assuming he has one).  Similarily Judges go to great lengths to ensure their home addresses are not revealed so that the same scum cannot easily harass them.

Presumably the good judge is OK with the concept of knowledgable people (say a telephone employee) issuing such data to the Times to print. Of course why stop there,  lets have all chief constables,  MP&#039;s and various do-good agencies CEO&#039;s addresses revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can suppose that Nightjack wished to retain a certain level of anonimitty because he is dealing with scum who would want to harm him or his family  (I am assuming he has one).  Similarily Judges go to great lengths to ensure their home addresses are not revealed so that the same scum cannot easily harass them.</p>
<p>Presumably the good judge is OK with the concept of knowledgable people (say a telephone employee) issuing such data to the Times to print. Of course why stop there,  lets have all chief constables,  MP&#8217;s and various do-good agencies CEO&#8217;s addresses revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymity is all well and good if you are just trying to expose something. However, there is always the temptation to reveal your true self, after all, what is the point of achieving recognition (look how great I am) if you can’t bathe in the full glow, in your true identity.  That is unless of course you are doing it for the greater good, and quite happy to stay in the shadows. Then you should remain anonymous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymity is all well and good if you are just trying to expose something. However, there is always the temptation to reveal your true self, after all, what is the point of achieving recognition (look how great I am) if you can’t bathe in the full glow, in your true identity.  That is unless of course you are doing it for the greater good, and quite happy to stay in the shadows. Then you should remain anonymous.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna,

If Polly Tonybee were someone else but was crap at covering their tracks should they enjoy the protection of the law in remaining a pseudonym to make up for their mistakes?

Should Guido be able to stop people broadcasting his real name?

Old Holborn said enough on his blog to be identified via messages he had posted elsewhere. Who is most at fault for this: The person who linked to the website where OH said who he was or OH for being careless?

It seems to me The Times set out to spoil things for him but &lt;b&gt;if&lt;/b&gt; Night Jack chose to publish details that could identify the cases he was discussing and thereby identify him surely that is his own mistake and he should accept responsibility for it. The risk to his career was present with or without The Times sticking their oar in.

Was it in the public interest? Not sure. All seems very petty. He had made a pseud0-name for himself by publishing what he had and blogging anonymously is bound to arouse curiosity if not suspicion. If his behaviour is contrary to Police regulations should the freedom of the press only apply to plods who are devious, evil bastards?

He was like Icarus and flew too close to the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna,</p>
<p>If Polly Tonybee were someone else but was crap at covering their tracks should they enjoy the protection of the law in remaining a pseudonym to make up for their mistakes?</p>
<p>Should Guido be able to stop people broadcasting his real name?</p>
<p>Old Holborn said enough on his blog to be identified via messages he had posted elsewhere. Who is most at fault for this: The person who linked to the website where OH said who he was or OH for being careless?</p>
<p>It seems to me The Times set out to spoil things for him but <b>if</b> Night Jack chose to publish details that could identify the cases he was discussing and thereby identify him surely that is his own mistake and he should accept responsibility for it. The risk to his career was present with or without The Times sticking their oar in.</p>
<p>Was it in the public interest? Not sure. All seems very petty. He had made a pseud0-name for himself by publishing what he had and blogging anonymously is bound to arouse curiosity if not suspicion. If his behaviour is contrary to Police regulations should the freedom of the press only apply to plods who are devious, evil bastards?</p>
<p>He was like Icarus and flew too close to the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Gloria&#039;s pink ointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Gloria&#8217;s pink ointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Holborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Holborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got the fucker

http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/06/patrick-foster-of-times.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the fucker</p>
<p><a href="http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/06/patrick-foster-of-times.html" rel="nofollow">http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/06/patrick-foster-of-times.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: yvonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a comment on The Times and got the message that they were experiencing large comment volumes but only four comments appear.  Perhaps they did not like what I had to say.
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6509677.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment on The Times and got the message that they were experiencing large comment volumes but only four comments appear.  Perhaps they did not like what I had to say.<br />
<a href="http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6509677.ece" rel="nofollow">http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6509677.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#124; Anonymong</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#124; Anonymong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fear that Justice Eadys ruling was the correct one, though I&#8217;m not sure I agree with him that blogging is essentially a public business, and I definitely don&#8217;t agree that just because a blogger is a member of the police that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fear that Justice Eadys ruling was the correct one, though I&#8217;m not sure I agree with him that blogging is essentially a public business, and I definitely don&#8217;t agree that just because a blogger is a member of the police that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: North Northwester</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Northwester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT I know, but I think you might want to publicize this.

http://my-own-doubts.blogspot.com/2009/06/hacking-iranian-government.html

Richard Dale is trying to help the Iranians crash government websites.

I hope you and your readers will take a look and maybe spread the word.

This is one in the server for Amahdidinnerjacket and his girl-hurting pig-fuckers.

Pardon my Spartan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT I know, but I think you might want to publicize this.</p>
<p><a href="http://my-own-doubts.blogspot.com/2009/06/hacking-iranian-government.html" rel="nofollow">http://my-own-doubts.blogspot.com/2009/06/hacking-iranian-government.html</a></p>
<p>Richard Dale is trying to help the Iranians crash government websites.</p>
<p>I hope you and your readers will take a look and maybe spread the word.</p>
<p>This is one in the server for Amahdidinnerjacket and his girl-hurting pig-fuckers.</p>
<p>Pardon my Spartan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the Times will reveal the names of all its informers - NOT!

You should read the Register comments on this - the Times gets slammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the Times will reveal the names of all its informers &#8211; NOT!</p>
<p>You should read the Register comments on this &#8211; the Times gets slammed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shooting the whistle-blower  combines with the envy of a spiteful hack. What NightJack did was in the public interest (in every sense of the phrase).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shooting the whistle-blower  combines with the envy of a spiteful hack. What NightJack did was in the public interest (in every sense of the phrase).</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Raccoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Raccoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting - just checked my spam folder - and apologies to mandyv who has been trapped in there, and who I have just released.

I am being heavily spammed by &#039;amateur incest movies&#039; - are there professional ones???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; just checked my spam folder &#8211; and apologies to mandyv who has been trapped in there, and who I have just released.</p>
<p>I am being heavily spammed by &#8216;amateur incest movies&#8217; &#8211; are there professional ones???????</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Raccoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Raccoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

How do you know that Polly Toynbee&#039;s real name is Polly Toynbee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>How do you know that Polly Toynbee&#8217;s real name is Polly Toynbee?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He added: “Those who wish to hold forth to the public by this means often take steps to disguise their authorship, but it is in my judgement a significantly further step to argue, if others are able to deduce their identity, that they should be restrained by law from revealing it.” &quot;

I can agree with this sentiment. With his career on the line Night Jack could have done a more thorough job of disguising his identity by giving less away about his cases.

The consequences of Night Jack&#039;s behaviour must be carried on his own shoulders. Yes he was providing a valuable insight into policing* and yes the Times story is niggardly and without merit but he didn&#039;t have to give so many clues as to his identity.

Would readers trust newspapers that carried no names on it&#039;s articles?

* Why do the Police fear serving officers discussing the way Policing is done, for good and ill? They will never regain our trust by trying to clamping down on such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He added: “Those who wish to hold forth to the public by this means often take steps to disguise their authorship, but it is in my judgement a significantly further step to argue, if others are able to deduce their identity, that they should be restrained by law from revealing it.” &#8221;</p>
<p>I can agree with this sentiment. With his career on the line Night Jack could have done a more thorough job of disguising his identity by giving less away about his cases.</p>
<p>The consequences of Night Jack&#8217;s behaviour must be carried on his own shoulders. Yes he was providing a valuable insight into policing* and yes the Times story is niggardly and without merit but he didn&#8217;t have to give so many clues as to his identity.</p>
<p>Would readers trust newspapers that carried no names on it&#8217;s articles?</p>
<p>* Why do the Police fear serving officers discussing the way Policing is done, for good and ill? They will never regain our trust by trying to clamping down on such things.</p>
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