Comments on: Abuse of Process.

By: Greg_L-W.

Greg_L-W. — Thu, 27 May 2010 03:21:05 +0000

I trust The Lady eleanor has found the experience improved subsequently!

In the case in hand, no pun intended, had it been 3 small boys experimenting no doubt the full might of the Pink Estate would have been brought to defend their rights and no doubt it would have entered the lexicon of education as role playing as they copied an alternative lifestyle!

By: Rog

Rog — Wed, 26 May 2010 10:14:36 +0000

How did Labour manage to miss the glaring culprit in all of this. They should have demolished or at least heavily taxed bike sheds years ago.

By: Eleanor

Eleanor — Wed, 26 May 2010 08:30:18 +0000

I am appalled by the whole business. All three children have been abused by The State. Are our Courts now to be full of children playing Doctors and Nurses? And yes, I do know what I am talking about. I was similarly assaulted at about the same age, and believe me, the attempt was pretty pathetic. And No, I didn’t tell anyone, thank God, although I doubt that I would have finished up in court. It did not ruin my life.

The CPS wants shooting.

And what on earth were the Jury thinking of? Or was it just a point of law.

By: Reverie

Reverie — Tue, 25 May 2010 22:00:16 +0000

There is a chilling absence of proportion in this sad tale.
The people responsible for abuse here are not the children.

Police, prosecutors, parents and as well as the NSPCC are each responsible for perpetuating cruelty by not communicating in a humane fashion with these minors.
Adults have a responsiblity for their actions these were excessive.

We all make mistakes, the challenge in life is to learn from them.

By: Damn the consequences

Damn the consequences — Tue, 25 May 2010 19:43:54 +0000

In the we-have-our-rights society, it is unnecessary for “parents” to exercise prudent control over their children, the state is quite able to bear the burden.
I eagerly await the TV sequel so that the “mother” of the young girl can secure a payment to offset her (the mother’s) pain and suffering.
Lessons will be learned, and we can expect in our decadent society’s future that the young boys will seek to silence the victim to avoid similar charges ?
But it was all for the children’s sake, no adult ego’s were at play here-right?

By: World Weary Detective

World Weary Detective — Tue, 25 May 2010 16:37:21 +0000

This case happened because people in decision making positions are no longer willing to take negative decisions, ie rule that the case should be taken no further. It is a culture of blame, where everyone is afraid to make a decision in case in turns out to be the wrong one. This therefore leads to the police making arrests, rather than not, the police then presenting the case to the CPS rather than taking no further action, the CPS deciding to charge, the reviewing CPS lawyer deciding to continue with the case to trial, the judge allowing the case to continue to the jury, and the jury members coming forward with findings of guilt. No-one to blame then!

By: Woman on a Raft

Woman on a Raft — Tue, 25 May 2010 16:02:53 +0000

Basically, yes. They are becoming sexually aware far earlier. This however, is not to be confused with mental maturity. Although there was an element of schools pushing sex education at the command of the old DFCS, in primary schools the showing of sex education films from year 5 (9-10 year olds) was widely supported by parents simply because it is observably the case that the 9 year old girls were moving in to puberty. You either tell children properly what is happening to them, or they will make up a load of rubbish for themselves. Literate seven and eight year olds will already have picked up Babbette Cole’s “Mother laid an egg”, the very best book on the subject ever written. Most boys will already have asked awkward questions about certain experiences…

The world where sex education could be left until maybe year eight or nine (twelve and thirteen year olds) , or even almost to almost GCSEs has been gone for many, many years. I am sorry for it, because it was a better world, but it is simply not as you hoped it still was.

By: Antisthenes

Antisthenes — Tue, 25 May 2010 12:52:42 +0000

Thank you for putting it into perspective as I found the matter quite perplexing and confusing. Your analysis and conclusions are spot on, this should never have come before the courts in fact should never have been taken seriously at all. That it has is an indictment on the twisted and over righteous behave of the NSPCC and the CPS. One thing that I still do not understand is how it could be considered that anything of a sexual nature could be happening here. Surely the age of sexual awareness and the resultant sexual urges do not occur until at least 12 years of age or are children developing much more rapidly than in my day?

By: Vimes

Vimes — Tue, 25 May 2010 11:36:57 +0000

Parental punishment by proxy – works for me. You would, of course, have to work out where the bounds of responsible parenting were – I suspect that certain precedents may have already been set, in that respect.

By: Anna Raccoon

Anna Raccoon — Tue, 25 May 2010 11:17:43 +0000

Actually Vimes, I don’t think a week without an X-Box, or even 100 lines is sufficient punishment for a parent who lets an 8 year old girl out to play alone in the local park.
As for the parent of a 10 year old boy who hasn’t learnt that he does not ‘stick his willy’ into anyone without permission, words fail me.
Punishing the children for the ommissions of the parents is the height of obscenity.

By: JuliaM

JuliaM — Tue, 25 May 2010 10:47:42 +0000

Spot on. Going forward with this trial was a travesty even BEFORE the collapse of the main prosecution witnesses testimony…

By: Vimes

Vimes — Tue, 25 May 2010 10:42:44 +0000

So, what should be an appropriate punishment for attempted rape? Sent to bed with no supper? A week’s ban from the X-Box? How about 100 lines – “I must not attempt to stick my willy into 8 year-olds, without permission”? That should prevent any chance of re-offending.

By: Joe Public

Joe Public — Tue, 25 May 2010 10:35:31 +0000

So, the ‘offenders’ are but young school kids – now on the Sex Offenders Register.

Doesn’t that Register prohibit them from going to a school, where they may be left unsupervised with (other) kids of their own age?

[Or, did the drafters & approvers of that Law not consider the consequences of an event comprising all pre-teens?]

By: SadButMadLad

SadButMadLad — Tue, 25 May 2010 10:08:19 +0000

There were three victims. The villians are the CPS and NSPCC and other left leaning politically correct busy bodies.

By: Bless em

Bless em — Tue, 25 May 2010 09:57:20 +0000

I agree with the points you make Anna.

One point adults seem to forget (even though they were children themselves), when you’re a child, older children seem like adults in comparison.

Most adults see all children as sweet little kittens (aah bless), but some can be the truly terrifying to fellow children, the equivalent of us being confronted by a deranged psychopath (and they don’t have the maturity that we have to formulate a reasonable way out of said situation).

Ps. No I wasn’t bullied as a child, I’m just aware that homo sapiens range from good’uns good through to complete and utter b@stards whatever age they are.

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 25 May 2010 09:41:22 +0000

Anna,
Spot on again. In a Harman Utopia there would be no rape trials, simply a mandatory sentencing after accusation because males are automatically guilty of rape whatever their age. This case was a Harman show trial to boost the prosecution tractorstats. I agree that a private telling off followed by a lecture would have been more child-centred and sensible.