Comments on: Last remaining incandescent Rosbif writes… http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/ A jaundiced view of the mainstream media. Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:42:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11471 Roger Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:44:50 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11471 I have used Gmail for some years, but primarily as a secure server for my ordinary email client, Mozilla Thunderbird. (https sending & receiving). Basically this means that you use your ordinary email program on your PC to compose, send & receive emails, but instead of using your IPS's POP & SMTP mail servers, you use Gmail's. It's free and has the benefit that Gmail retains "in the cloud" copies of your received and sent correspondence should you lose your local copies. The only very slight downside I may mention is that as your mail is received & sent using https servers, your anti-virus can't scan it on the fly. (Well, that's the point of https, isn't it - nothing can get into it?). Nasties will be detected on execution or opening, so it's not a real problem. Gmail also has its own anti-virus scanning as an extra layer of protection. I have used Gmail for some years, but primarily as a secure server for my ordinary email client, Mozilla Thunderbird. (https sending & receiving).
Basically this means that you use your ordinary email program on your PC to compose, send & receive emails, but instead of using your IPS’s POP & SMTP mail servers, you use Gmail’s. It’s free and has the benefit that Gmail retains “in the cloud” copies of your received and sent correspondence should you lose your local copies.
The only very slight downside I may mention is that as your mail is received & sent using https servers, your anti-virus can’t scan it on the fly. (Well, that’s the point of https, isn’t it – nothing can get into it?). Nasties will be detected on execution or opening, so it’s not a real problem. Gmail also has its own anti-virus scanning as an extra layer of protection.

]]> By: Jabba the Cat http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11418 Jabba the Cat Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:13:11 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11418 Get a normal pop3 account, a proper email client and stop whining... Get a normal pop3 account, a proper email client and stop whining…

]]> By: Adam Collyer http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11409 Adam Collyer Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:42:54 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11409 But people who use Google like their whimsical ways, and their cute logos that change every day. Some of them even believe that Google aren't out to make money. In fact, I've heard rumours that some Google lovers even claim that Google support open source, and aren't motivated by the idea of becoming the next Microsoft dollar-press. Ha ha ha ha. Try Hotmail or Yahoo mail. But people who use Google like their whimsical ways, and their cute logos that change every day. Some of them even believe that Google aren’t out to make money. In fact, I’ve heard rumours that some Google lovers even claim that Google support open source, and aren’t motivated by the idea of becoming the next Microsoft dollar-press.

Ha ha ha ha.

Try Hotmail or Yahoo mail.

]]> By: john ward http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11406 john ward Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:12:07 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11406 The author writes: (1) One can't export lists from Outlook to Gmail: on their own admission, they don't 'accept' them. Something to do with them not, um, liking Microsoft very much. (2) Nothing Google do is 'free': the price is merely hidden. Ollie Letwin's initial view was also 'you get what you pay for' - but after investigating, he changed it. (3) As the comment threads in the Chateau D'If clearly show, there is a software fault in gmail bcc....and has been for years. The comments are full of tricks to get round the problem - but this is pure Gulliver stuff. 'Why not just get Google to solve it?' you ask: because you can't. Pigeon, letter, email, telephone: das ist strengstens verboten, Mensch! (4) I changed from paid-for Orange because they restricted me to ten recipients per mail...a subtle attempt to change themselves into pay-more-for-Orange. (5) Next time I will indeed have backups: but why should I have to assume that all big-business technology will be crap? (6) The main opinion in the piece is that sectioning the customer is not really a form of service: it's what the Soviet Union used to do with dissidents. Sorry to go a bit Stephen Fry about this folks, but I think I'm beginning to see why Google will continue to get away with taking the piss.... Grump, grump. YM x The author writes:

(1) One can’t export lists from Outlook to Gmail: on their own admission, they don’t ‘accept’ them. Something to do with them not, um, liking Microsoft very much.
(2) Nothing Google do is ‘free’: the price is merely hidden. Ollie Letwin’s initial view was also ‘you get what you pay for’ – but after investigating, he changed it.
(3) As the comment threads in the Chateau D’If clearly show, there is a software fault in gmail bcc….and has been for years. The comments are full of tricks to get round the problem – but this is pure Gulliver stuff. ‘Why not just get Google to solve it?’ you ask: because you can’t. Pigeon, letter, email, telephone: das ist strengstens verboten, Mensch!
(4) I changed from paid-for Orange because they restricted me to ten recipients per mail…a subtle attempt to change themselves into pay-more-for-Orange.
(5) Next time I will indeed have backups: but why should I have to assume that all big-business technology will be crap?
(6) The main opinion in the piece is that sectioning the customer is not really a form of service: it’s what the Soviet Union used to do with dissidents.
Sorry to go a bit Stephen Fry about this folks, but I think I’m beginning to see why Google will continue to get away with taking the piss….
Grump, grump.
YM x

]]> By: ivan http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11405 ivan Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:21:34 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11405 Anna, Beware of 'web experts' because they are just experts and usually follow the definition I coined in the 60s and yes I am one. Expert: x is the unknown quantity and a spert is a drip under pressure. :-) Anna,
Beware of ‘web experts’ because they are just experts and usually follow the definition I coined in the 60s and yes I am one.

Expert: x is the unknown quantity and a spert is a drip under pressure. :-)

]]> By: Anna Raccoon http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11404 Anna Raccoon Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:25:46 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11404 Huh! Oh ye of little faith, 'tis not I who is technically incompetent, 'tis not I who wrote t'article above, 'tis I who have got my banner back in place which no less than two 'web experts' have told me is not possible without a complete redesign in the past week.....step forward Master Ward. Er, whoops! T'was I who managed to lose the banner in the last upgrade, so perhaps I had better stop crowing. Slinks away into corner, shamefaced. Anybody out there capable of drawing me a better Raccoon than that? Huh! Oh ye of little faith, ’tis not I who is technically incompetent, ’tis not I who wrote t’article above, ’tis I who have got my banner back in place which no less than two ‘web experts’ have told me is not possible without a complete redesign in the past week…..step forward Master Ward.

Er, whoops! T’was I who managed to lose the banner in the last upgrade, so perhaps I had better stop crowing.

Slinks away into corner, shamefaced.

Anybody out there capable of drawing me a better Raccoon than that?

]]> By: ivan http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11403 ivan Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:03:05 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11403 It's free so you get what you pay for. That being said I have never trusted web based apps because they are not under your control. I have all e-mails directly accessible on my computer for the last 2 years. If I need anything before that I just get out the backup CD. Now, since I am posting more than the odd comment on some blogs, I'm investigating ways of archiving those as well. It’s free so you get what you pay for.

That being said I have never trusted web based apps because they are not under your control. I have all e-mails directly accessible on my computer for the last 2 years. If I need anything before that I just get out the backup CD.

Now, since I am posting more than the odd comment on some blogs, I’m investigating ways of archiving those as well.

]]> By: Allegoricus http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11402 Allegoricus Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:58:30 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11402 "It therefore follows that you can do what amounts to taking backups." Which also means - and sorry for this - that anything you lose from those lists is your own fault. :-( “It therefore follows that you can do what amounts to taking backups.”

Which also means – and sorry for this – that anything you lose from those lists is your own fault. :-(

]]> By: Allegoricus http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11401 Allegoricus Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:05:01 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11401 Puzzling - I've been using gmail since 2004 and it just ... works. I manage mailing lists from a couple of gmail mailboxes too - you know you can import and export [1] contact lists, don't you? [1] It therefore follows that you can do what amounts to taking backups. Puzzling – I’ve been using gmail since 2004 and it just … works.
I manage mailing lists from a couple of gmail mailboxes too – you know you can import and export [1] contact lists, don’t you?

[1] It therefore follows that you can do what amounts to taking backups.

]]> By: Barnsley Bill http://www.annaraccoon.com/internet/last-remaining-incandescent-rosbif-writes/comment-page-1/#comment-11400 Barnsley Bill Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:28:58 +0000 http://www.annaraccoon.com/?p=5054#comment-11400 I share your pain Ms Raccoon, just as well googlemail is free. I share your pain Ms Raccoon, just as well googlemail is free.

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